I recently returned from this year's Violin Society of America convention in Cleveland. I had a great time, and am looking forward to writing a post about my experiences soon, but first I wanted to share my part of a panel discussion I was privileged to be a part of.
We got to talking at last year's convention during the women's luncheon (which is a nice place for women in the industry to connect since there are so few of us) about what we experience in terms of discrimination. The esteemed Marilyn Wallin gave a brave speech about some of the things she's endured, including a man tearing up a check for an instrument of hers after he discovered a woman had built it and then declared the idea too disgusting to contemplate, to the fact that women in the early days of the violin making schools were not allowed to build cellos. (She had to hire one of the male students to teach her. Marilyn currently makes some of the best damn cellos on the planet.)
It sparked quite a conversation as everyone began to share their own stories. Everyone has them, which is very much what the MeToo movement has been about. As we talked over lunch and beyond, I started to ask why we weren't sharing these stories with men. We know all these problems are ubiquitous. It's men who do not.
So we decided to put together a panel discussion for the next convention, and we collected stories that women were too uncomfortable to attach their names to and edited them enough to provide anonymity. I wrote the intro, my friend Robyn read the stories, and Marilyn contributed a new piece before I read a closing, and then we turned the discussion over to the audience. The only real stumbling block we had was that various people in charge of organizing the talks at the convention kept trying to change our panel into one about general diversity, at one point promoting it as "How to Bring Diversity to Your Shop!" which struck me as a terrible bait and switch that would understandably upset people. I tried to address the diversity issue a bit (which is incredibly important, just not what we were doing), but was relieved when the wording was changed in the program before it went to print, and finally read "Panel Discussion: Experiences of Discrimination in the Workplace."
For anyone who is interested but couldn't attend the VSA convention this year, here is my talk:
Thank
you so much for coming to our discussion on diversity as hosted by
three cis-gendered, straight, white women!
The
original concept for this panel was inspired by a piece by Marilyn
Wallin that she read to a small group of us at last year’s women’s
luncheon. She shared some of her experiences as a woman in our
male dominated profession, and it got us talking about how such
stories need to be shared with a wider audience.
With
you.
And
the truth is there are larger issues of diversity that also need to
be addressed beyond the experiences of just women. There is a large
community of Asians with their own stories, members of the LGBTQ
community to hear from, Latin Americans and Hispanics are not well
represented here, and the dearth of African Americans in our industry
is frankly an embarrassment.
The
three of us can’t speak to those and other experiences, but we’re
hoping by at least discussing the perspective of women in violin
making that maybe some lessons apply to other groups, and at least
open the door to more and varying discussions in the future. In the
audience participation session at the end we welcome stories and
opinions from anyone with a perspective they believe is generally
overlooked. We want to hear you.
So
first, here’s the good news: This audience is a bit like preaching
to the choir. You wouldn’t be here if you didn’t care. And
I can say from my own experience and from talking to many women in
this organization, that the VSA has been nothing but welcoming and
inclusive. I am proud to be a member of this group, and I have always
felt supported here.
That
is a remarkable thing, and something I, and many other women, don’t
take for granted.
However!
I have had some interesting conversations in recent years with men
here I like and respect and who I know are well-meaning, but who
are―through no fault of their own―simply oblivious to how my
experience in this field is different based on my sex.
Our
goal here today is to fill in some blanks, and give people a chance
to consider that there are challenges some of us face that they have
been possibly unaware of. Once you know, you have the opportunity to
do better.
I
know this kind of discussion can be uncomfortable. Nobody
wants to be told someone else is facing obstacles you are not if it
seems to imply you have it easy. Life is a struggle for everyone.
None of us are getting out of this alive. We all have obstacles to
face and hardships to endure. Life isn’t fair.
But
I have learned to recognize, for instance, that I have privileges I
take for granted simply because I am able-bodied.
Because
I am white.
Because
I am straight.
Because
I am middle class.
Because
I am a citizen of this country.
These
are things I didn’t ask for, but that give me advantages over
others around me. These things don’t make me more deserving, but
that’s how it plays out.
I
am granted the benefit of the doubt in many situations where someone
else would be dismissed or caused to suffer.
If
we aren’t aware of the unearned privileges we have, we can feel
entitled to them, and not recognize how much harder it was for
someone else to reach the same place we’ve gotten to without as
much effort.
When
it comes to women and harassment, you may not feel much obligation to
listen because you probably just think since you would personally
never do such a thing, this doesn’t apply to you.
But
whether you realize it or not, you know men who have behaved badly
toward women in this industry.
And
by not actively paying attention to stop such behavior you become
part of the problem. We need you to help us fix this because we can’t
do it without you. Don’t disengage. Listen. Help.
Now,
I personally don’t believe sexism exists in our field in a way that
is disproportionate to the way it exists in the society at large. But
it does exist. So I’d like to start by painting a picture of what
women face in America today, and then focus more specifically on how
that plays out in the quirks of our industry.
I
think the major point I wish more men understood is just how
vulnerable women are in our culture. We don’t get to navigate the
world in a way that is not always on the defensive.
Everyone
in this room knows someone who has been raped or sexually assaulted.
They may not have talked to you openly about it, but women know from
talking privately to each other how rampant the problem is.
Most
of the time it is not reported. Personally, none of the women I know
who have been raped ever saw their attacker punished in any way.
So
we walk around knowing we could be abused, and there is relatively no
protection from it or hope of justice if it happens. That’s
terrifying.
I,
myself, have been fortunate to get to this stage of my life having
never been raped or violently assaulted. But, I have to navigate the
world from the premise that it could happen at any time.
That
reality dictates where I walk, when I can go places, what I can do.
The
most dangerous thing in the world to women is men. When we say a
neighborhood is dangerous, it is dangerous because of men. I am not
saying there aren’t men that other men fear as well, but men have a
freedom in the average situation or surrounding that we do not.
I
remember years ago in a women’s studies class in college we were
asked to fill out a questionnaire,
and
number eleven was “What do you think about when you walk alone at
night?”
The
men in the room were baffled.
They
laughed and asked how they were supposed to answer the question since
on any given night they could be thinking about something different.
And every woman in the class stared at them and said, “You get to
think about whatever you want?”
I
walked alone at night in college with my fist wrapped around a reamer
in my Swiss army knife with the intent of jamming into the eye of a
potential attacker.
When
I walk alone at night now, I am making mental notes about the nearest
place to run if I have to. I have to alter my route depending on
where men are walking to avoid a confrontation. I still never get to
think about whatever I want if I walk alone.
But
as much as it affects us to have to operate with a low level sense of
fear of strangers all the time, the truth is nearly all of the women
I know who have had frightening, humiliating, or violent
confrontations with men, it was most often with men they knew.
Even
the good men I know, need to have a better sense of how their simply
being male can be an implied threat. I have a black belt in jujutsu,
and the main thing I learned in all that training was just how much
stronger men really are.
Just
because you know you would never hurt anyone, doesn’t mean we do.
Most really scary encounters start as something small and then
escalate. We can’t usually tell which situations will get worse and
which ones are harmless.
That’s
why it’s so insulting when a man tells us to just have a sense of
humor about something we find offensive. We’ve learned from our own
experiences and the experiences of women we know what kind of
terrible turn certain things can take.
You’re
not living in the same world we are.
If
you really don’t understand why a man grabbing some part of our
bodies can’t just be taken as paying us a compliment, then imagine
the same thing was happening to you in a prison environment. It’s
about power. And it’s frightening to be in a position where you
feel like you have none.
With
that kind of backdrop in mind, let’s look at the violin making
world.
Here
is what I can tell you about the women luthiers I know:
They
are stubborn.
They
are determined.
They
are not easily dissuaded from doing something that interests them.
They
can be either a bit oblivious to, or may deliberately ignore, any
foolishness around them that might distract them their goals.
They
are not worried about stereotypes or fitting into them.
This
makes sense, because we kind of have to be these things to have
gotten this far. But I wonder about the number of women who
have personalities that would be easily dissuaded and diverted from
lutherie by an unwelcoming or potentially dangerous environment.
Maybe
we lost the chance to see some really amazing instruments because
this field didn’t give people a chance who could have been great.
Personally,
I’ve never minded working in a male-dominated field. I
like men a lot. I even
married
one! But that doesn’t mean I’m not self-conscious when I’m one
of a very small number of women in a room.
For
any man who can’t imagine why this should matter, flip the image in
your mind the next time you walk into a typical VSA lecture. If
the room were dominated by women you might feel out of place. You may
not automatically feel understood or welcome in the same way as when
you can take your surroundings for granted.
The
big difference, though, is that a man in a room dominated by women
may be uncomfortable, but doesn’t usually feel in danger.
A
woman in a room full of men is mindful of her personal space and the
location of the exits.
Before
a woman ever gets to violin or bow making school, she has to contend
with the general impression from society that we’re not supposed to
be good with tools.
Women
a generation before me were usually not allowed to take shop in
school. When I was in Jr High things had progressed to where everyone
had to take both Home Ec and Shop, but they changed shop to
mechanical drawing. And even then, the notoriously sexist shop
teacher never gave an A to a girl. It didn’t matter how precise and
careful my drawings were, the boys next to me always got the higher
grades, even though in regular art classes I was getting awards. But
the biggest insult was that we never got to touch a tool, which I was
dying to do.
To
this day, employees in hardware stores look past me to talk to my
husband. Most of the time I choose to find this amusing, but I would
be lying if I said it didn’t frustrate me after years and years and
years of it.
I
once gave a presentation about violin making to the Wisconsin
Woodworkers’ Guild where everyone in attendance to my recollection
was male. After showing my specialized tools and talking through the
general process of building a violin, I assured them that much of it
came down to mastering “flat, smooth and square” and that the
most elaborate and daunting of projects were all possible if you
broke them down into small steps done with care.
They
enjoyed it, and everyone was nice, but what sticks with me is the man
who came up afterward to pay me what he saw as a compliment. He told
me that when he first got there he couldn’t imagine what a woman
would have to say about woodworking that would be worth listening to,
but that he’d been pleasantly surprised. I still wonder how many
others in the audience felt the same way.
So
by the time we get to violin and bow making school, we’ve already
had to fight upstream a bit just to be taken seriously for wanting to
hold tools in our hands. Thankfully, women no longer look out of
place at these schools, and they are offered the same opportunities
at them as the male students, which was not always the case.
But
what happens when a woman is harassed at school? The first thing I
hear most men ask is, “Why don’t you say something?” or “Why
don’t you leave?” Think about that realistically for a moment.
Where
would we go? The opportunities for learning these skills are few and
far between, even now when there are more schools than ever. If the
person we most want to learn from also doesn’t treat us well, what
are our choices if this is what we really want to do? If speaking up
only succeeds in shutting down the possibility of our getting to
learn, what kind of a choice is that?
In
cases of full on assault, we can be driven from a school, but when
the harassment is low level, many of us decide to just brush it off
as best we can.
Why?
Because what is the realistic result of speaking up? In most of our
experience, it only compounds the negatives for us. We’re looked at
as humorless, as troublemakers, as overly sensitive.
Even
when the incident is just a relatively small indignity and we don’t
expect it to escalate, we still have to then move about with the idea
in mind of avoiding a repeat of the incident, by never being alone
with that person, or avoiding situations we might otherwise want to
participate in.
The
truth is, the minute someone with more power than you touches you
inappropriately
in that setting?
It’s
the same as saying:
I
don’t respect you.
I
don’t see you as equal to your fellow students.
I
don’t take
you seriously.
I
feel entitled to treat your body as an object for my entertainment.
And
when we don’t speak up―either out of shock or
self-preservation―it’s implied that we don’t mind.
These
same problems carry forward into shops, where often women have to
work in close spaces with men, and many times the businesses are
family owned and run. That compounds the problem of how to speak up
if something happens when we know perpetrators will be protected by
their families over us.
Not
to mention that our industry is relatively small, and our reputations
are everything. In order to work we’ve learned not to talk.
We’ve
been surveying women in our industry about their stories, and several
have agreed to share them anonymously. Some of them are shocking, but
keep in mind that these are the kinds of stories women share with
each other in private all the time.
This
is how we’ve tried to keep each other safe by making each other
aware of whom to avoid and when. Most men I know aren’t privy to
such stories, but I think you should be. We need to start
including you in these conversations because every one of you knows
someone these things have happened to.
And
now I’d like to turn things over to my friend and colleague Robyn who will be reading some
of the stories we’ve collected.
[
Robyn proceeded to read accounts ranging from:
being
expected as the only woman in the shop to perform housekeeping tasks
and making coffee which was never asked of the male students,
to
having to suffer through boorish comments and critiques of their
bodies,
to
being touched inappropriately in various circumstances,
to
having to put up with porn in the teacher's office and pinups in the
workroom,
to
being stunned by a man taking wood out of her arms that she was
planning to purchase because he thought he deserved it more,
to
being fired after refusing the advances of a colleague,
to
full on assault that resulted in the delay of the maker's career by
several years.]
And
now I’d like to turn things over to Marilyn. If you haven’t read
her piece that I mentioned in the beginning, it’s available in
Volume 3 of The Scroll. I am honored to be a member of any
organization she’s in.
[Marilyn
then gave her own excellent talk touching on the economic impact of
women in the workplace and the folly of excluding them in our, or
any, industry.]
Thank
you, Marilyn. For everything.
So
where do we go from here? What can we do?
The
good news is a lot of changes are already happening in the right
direction. I want to reiterate that in my experience and in that of
many women I know, the VSA has always been welcoming and supportive.
This is huge.
The
schools are no longer sexist in terms of their stated policies. They
also know these are issues not to be swept under the rug. Simply
having people in charge acknowledge that these problems are real and
unacceptable is a big step forward. We just need to make sure women
feel safe enough that if there are issues they can feel empowered to
actually speak up.
There
are more women in violin and bow making today than ever.
There
are more women-run shops than ever.
Our
numbers are still small, but we are visible enough that young girls
looking at this profession are less likely than ever to feel excluded
from lutherie as a career choice. I know my own kids think of tools
as a mom thing. I don’t think it would occur to them to ask their
dad for help with the bandsaw.
In
terms of hiring, I think we can take a cue from the orchestra world.
Blind auditions rapidly increased the number of women musicians at
the professional level, and raised the level of excellence of
orchestras wherever it was instituted to the point where it is
standard practice. The system of blind judging at the VSA
competitions has certainly given women here the chance to compete on
a field free of bias and it has helped.
If
you are truly interested in hiring based on quality of work, and want
to decrease the possibility of unconscious bias, maybe have
applicants submit work (like a bridge, or a board dressing) and have
it rated by a qualified third party with no identifying information
attached.
In
general it helps just to be aware of the power difference that exists
between men and women. I have a brother who is 6’4”―one of the
gentlest kindest people I know―and he once told me he is always
careful if he’s in a room with a woman never to stand between her
and the door. That impressed me as a small, but thoughtful way to
help create better peace of mind.
The
easiest piece of advice I can give is to simply strive to be
professional. If you have a colleague or an employee or a student who
is female that you need to work with, it shouldn’t be difficult to
treat her with respect.
Think
how you would want someone to treat your mom or your sister or your
daughter. I had the great fortune to be trained by Brian Derber in
his home as his first student after leaving his teaching position at
the Chicago School. He put in a desk for me next to his in his home
shop, and I could not have asked for a better working relationship.
Brian was never anything short of professional or supportive. So I
know first hand it can be done, and honestly, it didn’t look
complicated.
So,
again, life isn’t fair, and none of us have it easy, but that
doesn’t mean we shouldn’t correct injustice when we see it. The
impressive thing about our species is that we have the power to
change behaviors and attitudes within a single generation if we want
to.
The
fact that we are openly having this discussion is a positive change.
We
can choose to do better. I don’t see any reason why our profession
can’t choose to be the most supportive and inclusive industry of
all.
Luthiers
are nothing if not observant of details. I think we can elect to
expand our focus to include details about how we relate to each other
more fairly and to not add to someone else’s burden but help them
succeed.
Thank
you for your attention.
At
this time we would like to open the floor to anyone with comments or
ideas they would like to add to the discussion.
[And
I am pleased to report people had constructive things to say all the
way up until we had to relinquish the stage for the next
presentation. I
have some impressive and thoughtful colleagues.]
Beautifully, powerfully written.
ReplyDeleteAs you include in your statement, I am always aware of my position in a room relative to a female and an exit. I have to be particularly attentive when working with female students at the university. This means keeping my office door open when speaking with a student, giving students space, and making no assumptions about prior experience or capability based on sex.
I still have much to learn, and hearing about others' negative experiences adds insight as to how not to behave.
That's really interesting, Barrett, since the brother who told me this thought was Arno! Doesn't surprise me at all that it's something you are conscious of as well. I've talked to a couple of men who told me they changed what they do once they heard me describe this idea.
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